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There are already rumours flying about that there are a couple of ships on the way down there, the MOD has denied this, who do we believe? I believe the MOD at the moment as the rumours are being circulated by The Sun newspaper! lol

The FCO should make it clear what our intentions are - we don't want a repeat of the confusion over that as in '82.

 the aggies are barking,time to put a muzzel on. or send a vet,or two. recon theres a few scores to settle  from our vetrans. but joking aside we should make full use of our capabilaties,and let them know the door is,and will always be closed. dannie. (old git+vat)

I was under the impression we had a small navy presence (around 2 ships) down there already as well as a sqdrn of tornado's/typhoons and some army? Has the situation escalated that muhc or is it just the argie bargie's doing their usual moaning like a child without a sweet and the media blowing it up? 

buggerLuggs says ...

oggmonster says ...

The FCO should make it clear what our intentions are - we don't want a repeat of the confusion over that as in '82.

Don't sit on the fence mate - speak your mind. Listen we should storm in there when the time's right and batter them again. The Falklands is a sovereign Island with a people that don't want Spanish control.

You would (sit that is) if you were in my position!!! Yesterday the MoD denied the Royal Navy had increased its presence in the South Atlantic. But four vessels - HMS York, the survey ship HMS Scott, the Falklands patrol vessel HMS Clyde and the tanker RFA Wave Ruler - are close to the territory. A military source said top brass had ordered four Eurofighter Typhoon fighters, which carry 1,000lb laser-guided missiles, to fly to the south Atlantic, replacing the RAF's ageing Tornado fighters, which cannot carry bombs. Just a coincidence? The MoD said the changeover of planes was routine and not a response to the threats by Argentina.

But sabre-rattling quickly becomes something more when you can scent weakness in your enemy.

WELBURN75 says ...

I don't think a sub or for that matter anymore forces should be sent to the region - to my knowledge the navy already has a frigate down their on exercise anyway.

This doesn't mean that forces should not be made ready, i'd think that it would be easily achievable to get a sufficient force to be put on 24hrs notice to move.

However the direct movement of armed force into the region, in my opinion, will only worsen the situation and put the UK at greater risk of entering armed conflict.



So basically my view have the forces on stand by in the UK but do not deploy to the region as if a conflict is to break out the UK dose not want to look like the antagonist

Got to disagree there big fella.

Firstly 24 hours notice to move is all fine and well, i can assure you we have RQA forces ready to move much sooner than that, I think what you mean is 24 hours to get there if it kicks off. That's not likely when it comes to naval forces, would take approx 3 days to get there.

Secondly  there is already an armed forces presence in the area as it stands, in referenvce to an earlier post there's been plans to send typhoon's to the falklands for a while to replace the tornado's. Maybe its coincidental timing, maybe its a show of force, or maybe its a bit of both.

I can assure you if we did send extra forces down there it would not make us the antagonist, the falklands are ours, the islanders are british and they want us there, they're our people. Someone starts pushing your mate around, by clenching your fist are you the antagonist?

If the argie bargie's did fancy a pop they''d have a job, part of my job is radar's and I promise you with the type of systems we have down there we'd see them comming a mile off, or a few hundred mile off... nuff said on that.

Can someoe brifly fill me in on all of this? I've had a hectic week at work so I havewnt kept up with the news, last I heard we want to probe for oil around the islands and the Argie's dont like it? Whats happened since then to kick talk off of military action?

Cheers Tom!

Seems to me they need to be put back in their place.

My vote is a show of force,

We still have guys and girls good to go.

Highlander2010 says ...

I think we will have US backing this time if anything kicks off

I hope so mate, cos I cant see us getting enough troops together without making cut-backs elsewhere. Plus we all know what they are like when oil is involved, they will be straight in there!

Highlander2010 says ...

We Might get a call up all 18 to 45 year olds

Lol I don't see it getting that drastic!

A quick run down on their Airforce.......still depends on the Skyhawk and Mirage for the hard Sell 

Aircraft Origin Type Versions Quantity

 Fighter Aircraft Dassault Mirage III  France Fighter/Trainer Mirage IIIEA/Mirage IIIDA 9  

McDonnell Douglas A-4 Skyhawk  United States Attack and fighter

Attack, fighter and trainer A-4AR/OA-4AR 20

IAI Finger (Mirage 5 subtype)  Israel Attack and fighter/Trainer Finger/Dagger B 6

Dassault Mirage V  France Attack and fighter Mirage 5A 6

Ground Attack FMA IA 58 Pucará  Argentina Attack IA-58A 36 

  Trainer Beechcraft T-34 Mentor  United States Trainer FMA T-34A 31 

  Sukhoi Su-29  Russia Aerobatics Su-29 7  

Embraer Tucano  Brazil Trainer   27  

FMA IA 63 Pampa  Argentina Trainer/attack   18

Info from Wiki of course

Tartanninja says ...

A quick run down on their Airforce.......still depends on the Skyhawk and Mirage for the hard Sell 

 

Aircraft Origin Type Versions Quantity

 Fighter Aircraft Dassault Mirage III  France Fighter/Trainer Mirage IIIEA/Mirage IIIDA 9  

McDonnell Douglas A-4 Skyhawk  United States Attack and fighter

Attack, fighter and trainer A-4AR/OA-4AR 20

IAI Finger (Mirage 5 subtype)  Israel Attack and fighter/Trainer Finger/Dagger B 6

Dassault Mirage V  France Attack and fighter Mirage 5A 6

Ground Attack FMA IA 58 Pucará  Argentina Attack IA-58A 36 

  Trainer Beechcraft T-34 Mentor  United States Trainer FMA T-34A 31 

  Sukhoi Su-29  Russia Aerobatics Su-29 7  

Embraer Tucano  Brazil Trainer   27  

FMA IA 63 Pampa  Argentina Trainer/attack   18

 

Info from Wiki of course

And ours...of course you can take a lot of this out because of Afghan.....and remember the Apache is owned by the ARMY..

 

AIRCRAFT TYPE
FLEET NUMBER


Typhoon
54


Tornado GR4/4A
136


Tornado F3
64


Harrier
77


Nimrod MR2
15


Nimrod R1
3


Nimrod MRA4
1


Tristar
9


VC10
15


Sentry
7


Sentinel
5


Hercules K
14


Hercules J
24


C-17
6


BAe 146
2


BAe 125
6


Sea King
25


Dominie
9

Their Infantry gear is light years behind us......the newest bit of kit they got was the Styer AUG....

and even thats old by todays Standard.....

Roger that.....

Big bucket of oil anyone ?

whitey14uk says ...

Tartanninja says ...

Roger that.....

 

Big bucket of oil anyone ?

I fancy a few thousand! Anyone got a problem with that?

Careful oh fluffy one, its reet mucky stuff!.