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Indeed there are misconceptions of ex-military professionals among employers, and many former forces experience this, more so if they come from the ranks.

This follows that former forces have no experience of the commercial world and that their skills are non-transferable. But we all know this is incorrect because many job roles in the forces are the same as administrative roles in government and the public sector thus providing the right skills; then there are procurement and logistical roles that give experience of the commercial world. In addition, many join the forces after having already worked in civilian jobs for either a few or several years.

An employer’s claim that he would rather recruit "ex-drug dealers, convicts and child molesters than ex-military candidates", is misinformed, incorrect, and down right unprofessional.

Company boss compares British troops to child molesters in rant at job agency

I don't agree - Danny Boy has little to do with this. The Iraqis' allegations that British soldiers might have killed some captives held after the Battle are denied by the MoD and will be fought in a courtroom. We have to remember all the positive stories that have come from Irag and Afghanistan, not just the alledged negative ones.

Not all soldiers serve in the frontline and possess and learn skills that support front line soldiers and the entire military infrastructure in a different way. Karl Winn has no idea of what he has said - he is discriminating against former soldiers and if his company is found to be discriminating on these grounds then he should face prosecution as there is little evidence a person serving in the Intelligence or Medical Corps that they have no skills to offer civilian employers.

This is a rubbish story about  rubbish, mind bogeling, ignorance and is best ignored.

This man should be run out of the country

He's on an ego trip, should be removed from his position, as he certainly hasnt got the personality and professionalism to do the job.

StewartThompson says ...

Hello - some people have been asking for this: Here you go, the link to FB that works is this one: Boycott Karl Winn & Webeurope!

I have suffered and suffered greatly why??? Cuase I was once a serv iceman and then I went into civvy street and guess what I had men who could not peel a pickled onion and if they made love they would put a condom upside down god give me the serviceman or woman any day any time switch on first class

has this bloke still got an agency to run  or has the building mysteriously burned down -

pm your address and I will post them off to you

what you think the matches were for -  to render the tub of lard down for soap as lye soap needs ash

oggmonster says ...

I don't agree - Danny Boy has little to do with this. The Iraqis' allegations that British soldiers might have killed some captives held after the Battle are denied by the MoD and will be fought in a courtroom. We have to remember all the positive stories that have come from Irag and Afghanistan, not just the alledged negative ones.

Not all soldiers serve in the frontline and possess and learn skills that support front line soldiers and the entire military infrastructure in a different way. Karl Winn has no idea of what he has said - he is discriminating against former soldiers and if his company is found to be discriminating on these grounds then he should face prosecution as there is little evidence a person serving in the Intelligence or Medical Corps that they have no skills to offer civilian employers.

Somebody mentioned that this Job Agency is bringing politics into it - this bloke might not agree with the war and therefore has set an agenda not to hire former Armed Forces. He'll regret making these comments nonetheless, there is a wave of support for the Armed Forces at the moment and most people whom serve are of good conduct and bring valuable skills to an new employer. Why miss out on these?

oldironbum says ...

StewartThompson says ...

Hello - some people have been asking for this: Here you go, the link to FB that works is this one: Boycott Karl Winn & Webeurope!

I have suffered and suffered greatly why??? Cuase I was once a serv iceman and then I went into civvy street and guess what I had men who could not peel a pickled onion and if they made love they would put a condom upside down god give me the serviceman or woman any day any time switch on first class

I think the above group has been deleted... perhaps it contravened FB's terms and conditions?

KeithFoster says ...

Hi Pilgrim,

here what a W++k++. I served 26 years in the Army going up thro' the ranks because I studied, you know like you do in any walk of life. I am now retired and when I need a civvy to do something for me I know that, (a) they will be late/not turn up, no idea of good time keeping, (b) Done a 6 month govy learning course to become a fully qualified what not, (c) refere to previous havn't a clue how to do the what not so spouts a load of tosh. The average serviceman is by far better educated regarding skill sets than any civvy that I have come across, Civvies are sloppy they have no pride in either their dress, attitude or profesionalism towards their 'government given' skill. seven years I spent to become an elevtrical engineer reaching a masters degree, when I was demobed I found that my credentials were seen to be irrelevent because I had been a soldier and really did not know one end of a cable drum from a mortar, It did not matter to the morron that I had studied at London Uni on term release from my duties to complete my courses. So this remark from Winn is far from uncommon when it comes to being employed after service.  

 

That sweeping statement about us "civvies" is just as insulting as HIS statement about forces personnel. Just goes to show.........there's good and bad in ALL walks of life!

NurseGladys says ...

KeithFoster says ...

Hi Pilgrim,

here what a W++k++. I served 26 years in the Army going up thro' the ranks because I studied, you know like you do in any walk of life. I am now retired and when I need a civvy to do something for me I know that, (a) they will be late/not turn up, no idea of good time keeping, (b) Done a 6 month govy learning course to become a fully qualified what not, (c) refere to previous havn't a clue how to do the what not so spouts a load of tosh. The average serviceman is by far better educated regarding skill sets than any civvy that I have come across, Civvies are sloppy they have no pride in either their dress, attitude or profesionalism towards their 'government given' skill. seven years I spent to become an elevtrical engineer reaching a masters degree, when I was demobed I found that my credentials were seen to be irrelevent because I had been a soldier and really did not know one end of a cable drum from a mortar, It did not matter to the morron that I had studied at London Uni on term release from my duties to complete my courses. So this remark from Winn is far from uncommon when it comes to being employed after service.  

 

That sweeping statement about us "civvies" is just as insulting as HIS statement about forces personnel. Just goes to show.........there's good and bad in ALL walks of life!

  

Really? Well seeing as I have not one sympathetic bone in my body you'll just have to accept that I and many others really don't give a hoot. You might want to consider that more and more it isn't going to be "Tommy this, Tommy that" you civvies have given us. Some of us are sick of being treated like dirt. S

dreme says ...

NurseGladys says ...

 

That sweeping statement about us "civvies" is just as insulting as HIS statement about forces personnel. Just goes to show.........there's good and bad in ALL walks of life!

Just the same then about how can a soldier with an unblemished record be accused of assault isnt it?......there's good and bad in ALL walks of life!

 

Assuming that's a refernece to the recent incident......... I wouldn't say he was "bad", made a serious mistake, acted extremely rashly if the story he puts forward isn't true...but many a person would have done the same. No excuse for a trained professional........ but, in my book, and I appear not to be alone, he was still harshly treated...given the circumstances 

NurseGladys says ...

Godot says ...

NurseGladys says ...

KeithFoster says ...

Hi Pilgrim,

here what a W++k++. I served 26 years in the Army going up thro' the ranks because I studied, you know like you do in any walk of life. I am now retired and when I need a civvy to do something for me I know that, (a) they will be late/not turn up, no idea of good time keeping, (b) Done a 6 month govy learning course to become a fully qualified what not, (c) refere to previous havn't a clue how to do the what not so spouts a load of tosh. The average serviceman is by far better educated regarding skill sets than any civvy that I have come across, Civvies are sloppy they have no pride in either their dress, attitude or profesionalism towards their 'government given' skill. seven years I spent to become an elevtrical engineer reaching a masters degree, when I was demobed I found that my credentials were seen to be irrelevent because I had been a soldier and really did not know one end of a cable drum from a mortar, It did not matter to the morron that I had studied at London Uni on term release from my duties to complete my courses. So this remark from Winn is far from uncommon when it comes to being employed after service.  

 

That sweeping statement about us "civvies" is just as insulting as HIS statement about forces personnel. Just goes to show.........there's good and bad in ALL walks of life!

  

Really? Well seeing as I have not one sympathetic bone in my body you'll just have to accept that I and many others really don't give a hoot. You might want to consider that more and more it isn't going to be "Tommy this, Tommy that" you civvies have given us. Some of us are sick of being treated like dirt. S

 

Well...given that I'm on here to show support for the British Armed Forces, have sent numerous parcels, donated a fair amount of money to their various charities ( when I have plenty of others to support with more direct connections), ...... I can only say the feeling is mutual Godot............

 

 

Heh, you didn't get the reference OBVIOUSLY, not surprised really.