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Being a Veteran trying to get work with PTSD.


I have had several Jobs since Leaving the Army All ending badly.


My partner & family seem to understand even my doctor can not help.


I can not get on with people they do not understand

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contact the british legion and they will get someone to help you from the vetran agency.


i suffered really bad from it and there is a place up in AYR where they send you for a few weeks to sort your head out, its meant to be a fantastic place.


it takes time though mate, civvy doctors never helped me after i left the rlc and i suffered really bad, but am on the mend now with help from the veteran agency.


 

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if you can get on facebook there are a couple of groups\charities that help with ptsd with amazing results in erradicating it in a matter of weeks  TALKING2MINDS and VETERANS INTERNATIONAL AID  these are ran by veterans for veterans, you can also search youtube for talking2minds

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 The one outside AYR is CombatStress and I have heard excellent reports about it.  Used to live a couple of miles from it and still have third party connections with it.... aparently an excellent place


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 Link to print off for GP if necessary :  http://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/member/mhaforexservicemenwomen.aspx


Mental Health Assessments for Ex-Service Personnel



 


The Medical Assessment Programme (MAP)


 


The MAP was established in July 1993 to examine UK Gulf veterans who were concerned that their health had been adversely affected by service in the 1990/1991 Gulf Conflict.  


 


Defence Ministers have extended the role of the MAP with time to other groups of ex-service personnel in order that they too may benefit from the knowledge and skills developed in assessing veterans with physical or mental health concerns. 


 


The MAP is a free national service to ex-service personnel who fulfill the following criteria for eligibility and feel they would benefit from seeing a consultant with a military background.


 


·       A Mental Health Examination for ex-service personnel with operational service since 1982 (including veterans of the Falklands Conflict)


 


·       A General Medical Examination for ex-service personnel of: The 1990/1991 Gulf War; The operation in Iraq (Operation TELIC); Porton Down Volunteer Studies and the current operations in Afghanistan


 


The MAP also offers free advice and information to individuals, families, health professionals and interested parties about the mental health of veterans.


 


The MAP is located at St Thomas' Hospital, London and currently staffed by Dr Ian Palmer a Consultant Psychiatrist, qualified General Practitioner and Professor of Military Psychiatry with extensive military experience and knowledge.


 


The purpose of the MAP is:


 



  • To assess, and attempt to understand, the physical and psychological difficulties experienced by ex-Service personnel presenting to the service.

  • To provide advice to individuals and health professionals about the mental and physical health of veterans in their care.

  • To offer advice to individuals, families, health professionals and interested parties about the mental health of veterans

  • Where possible, to provide diagnoses and management strategies for individuals and the medical and mental health professionals involved in their care.

  • To collate anonymised statistical information as a resource for study of this population by authorized researchers who have obtained the appropriate ethical clearance. No information about named individuals is given to third parties without written consent from the individuals concerned.

     


 


Free advice & information:


 


Freephone:       0800 169 5401 


                      


Phone:             020 7202 8323


 


Email:              map@gstt.nhs.uk


 


Websites:        www.mod.uk/defenceinternet/home and www.veterans-uk/info (follow links to MAP)


 


 


Referral to the MAP


 


GPs and Mental Health Professionals are encouraged to refer patients who fulfil the eligibility criteria and who are concerned that their physical and/or mental health may have suffered as a result of military Service.  All GPs and patients receive a copy of the assessment report.


 


 


Please refer cases to the following address:


Head of Medical Assessment Programme


c/o The Baird Medical Centre


Gassiot House 


St Thomas’ Hospital 


Lambeth Palace Road


London  SE1 7EH


 


Fax: 020 7202 8327


 


 


Health guide


A revised version of the “Gulf Health: Information Guide for Health Professionals” will be published later this year. Many of the questions raised about the MAP are common to all groups of veterans who are eligible to attend and the February 2005 version has been retained on the VPU website for information purposes.


 


 


Further information


There is now a new website bringing together services for ex-military personnel which may be accessed at uk.info/">http://www.veterans-uk.info/


 


 


Service Pensions & Veterans Agency (SPVA)


 


Further information on services for ex-military personnel may be obtained from SPVA:


·       0800 169 2277


·       uk.info/">http://www.veterans-uk.info/


 


 


Pilot Sites Studies


In 2006 The Department of Health and the Ministry of Defence sponsored six pilot sitesto examine and evaluate how best to identify and address ex-service personnel with mental health needs.  These pilot sites will be evaluated by the University of Sheffield in 2011 in order to inform PCTs and MHTs about the provision of services for ex-service personnel.  In the interim, the MAP offers expert mental health assessments in particular, for areas not yet involved in the pilot sites


 


 




Stafford; Camden & Islington; Cardiff; Lothian; Tees, Esk & Wear Valleys and Cornwall

 


 


Ian Palmer


Head of Medical Assessment Programme

 


May 2010


 



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 Combat stress is very good i see them once a month and they only deal with ex forces. no civvies they do outreach groups in most areas of the country in groups and also one to one meetings they first come out to your home to assess you and you may be offered a placement at one of there centres to give more help in groups or once again one to one (google combat stress for contact details for your area).


If you have been diagnosed with PTSD and want to go the NHS route make sure that your G.P. is aware you are ex forces as the NHS has had a directive from the government to bump you up waiting lists for treatment (once again contact combat stress as they will send/give you a copy of this directive to give your G.P.).


 THERE ARE TWO TREATMENTS FOR PTSD.


1= EMDR


2=CBT


There are drugs that can help, but after trying them i prefer to just do EMDR (it's not an easy fix, and takes it out of you but for me it SEEMS to be helping a little.)


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 Please see   http://www.hmforces.co.uk/news/articles/3527-access-to-health-servi...     for statement. However, please remember....... it is NOT an automatic jump to the top of the list!   There may be others who have a greater CLINICAL/more urgent need and they will still been seen first......but it should shorten the wait considerably. ( Please remember that Police, Fire brigade, Nurses, Doctors and others also may suffer from PTSD etc ) There is a massive shortage ( and in my opinion...something majorly wrong with their work system) of Clinical Psychologists and properly qualified   individuals to carry out this treatment.


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 Lots of people with PTSD not enough shrinks to treat them, Thats why i suggest ex forces go via Combat stress the waiting time is far less.

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There's an ex-Army guy who runs a website for ex-forces PTSD sufferers called Andy. This is his website: http://www.ptsd.org.uk/


And as already mentioned there is Combat Stress.


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Guys there is also a charity that do great work The Warrior Programme, i have been through their programme and it changed/saved my life.


I know that sounds like an add but hand on heart they are top people that do some amazing things to help!


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Guys there is also a charity that do great work The Warrior Programme, i have been through their programme and it changed/saved my life.


I know that sounds like an add but hand on heart they are top people that do some amazing things to help!


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Hi Sean and welcome to the forums!


Sounds like a great programme.............worth a plug at least!


http://www.warriorprogramme.org.uk/


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Hi and welcome to the forums. Is this like the US programme?


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 Hi. I have been watching a programme about PTSD and would like to recommend 5 point auricular acupuncture as a treatment. As the wife of a serving Flight Sergeant, and qualified auricular acupuncturist, I would like to offer this service to military personnel free of charge, where I can. It has proven to be effective as a de-stresser and does not require the individual to express any feelings or emotions, or to be engaged in "counselling".Please look at the nadauk.com website. I am  interested in possibly  combining auricular acupuncture with art therapy, as seen in Art for Heroes, a Culture Show Special on BBC 2, tonight.

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 Hi. I have been watching a programme about PTSD and would like to recommend 5 point auricular acupuncture as a treatment. As the wife of a serving Flight Sergeant, and qualified auricular acupuncturist, I would like to offer this service to military personnel free of charge, where I can. It has proven to be effective as a de-stresser and does not require the individual to express any feelings or emotions, or to be engaged in "counselling".Please look at the nadauk.com website. I am  interested in possibly  combining auricular acupuncture with art therapy, as seen in Art for Heroes, a Culture Show Special on BBC 2, tonight.


 



Is there any research to suggest this would help with PTSD? I see it is used for detox from alcohol etc...but couldn't find anything about treatment for PTSD


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NG - Maybe a little confusion going on here due to the word "stress" being one of the words in "PTSD"; hence her offering a "destresser". As you know Nursey, working in the mental health field; PTSD is not the same as ordinary stress.


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having just come out of combat stress audley court newport today anything that helps lower stress is seen as a good thing.

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having just come out of combat stress audley court newport today anything that helps lower stress is seen as a good thing.



Ordinary stress is subjective & part of life. PTSD has different triggers. A sufferer is unlikely to be able to find someone to stick a needle in their ear when they need it most is all I'm saying. Better to have total resolution than merely a temporay relief. And as Nursey says; there is no mention of this treatment being effective with PTSD.


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having just come out of combat stress audley court newport today anything that helps lower stress is seen as a good thing.



Yep, totaly agree. However the poster is offering this as a "treatment" for PTSD. As Hypno says....stress is in the disorder............but you would never suggest JUST stress relieving techniques as a treatment for PTSD. Needs much more than that. Personally, I've seen the great results obtained by EMDR. No treatment works for 100% of people 100% of the time, but it seems dam good to me. Acupuncture which is designed to help drug and alcohol users fight addiction isn't really in the same league/type of disorder.


Perhaps it would be better if it was just called PTD?


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having just come out of combat stress audley court newport today anything that helps lower stress is seen as a good thing.



Yep, totaly agree. However the poster is offering this as a "treatment" for PTSD. As Hypno says....stress is in the disorder............but you would never suggest JUST stress relieving techniques as a treatment for PTSD. Needs much more than that. Personally, I've seen the great results obtained by EMDR. No treatment works for 100% of people 100% of the time, but it seems dam good to me. Acupuncture which is designed to help drug and alcohol users fight addiction isn't really in the same league/type of disorder.


Perhaps it would be better if it was just called PTD?



i think the person offering it is offering it for the right reasons to HELP not as a cure as there is no cure just better management of the condition, so anyone who is willing to help ex servicemen and woman for free today are few and far between so i think it is a BIG thankyou from me to them

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having just come out of combat stress audley court newport today anything that helps lower stress is seen as a good thing.



Yep, totaly agree. However the poster is offering this as a "treatment" for PTSD. As Hypno says....stress is in the disorder............but you would never suggest JUST stress relieving techniques as a treatment for PTSD. Needs much more than that. Personally, I've seen the great results obtained by EMDR. No treatment works for 100% of people 100% of the time, but it seems dam good to me. Acupuncture which is designed to help drug and alcohol users fight addiction isn't really in the same league/type of disorder.


Perhaps it would be better if it was just called PTD?



i think the person offering it is offering it for the right reasons to HELP not as a cure as there is no cure just better management of the condition, so anyone who is willing to help ex servicemen and woman for free today are few and far between so i think it is a BIG thankyou from me to them



No cure? There are a few treatments which have proven to be successful in the treatment of PTSD. As Nursey says nothing will work 100% with 100% of people. EMDR, CBT, EFT (to name just 3) have all been a cure for some sufferers.


The offer may be altruistic, or on the other hand it could be an attempt to drum up trade. Seeing how I don't know them, & it is their first post on the forum; I wouldn't like to say. However, many people have posted links in their first post on this site for their own interest & never posted again; all claiming to be wanting "to help servicemen".


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having just come out of combat stress audley court newport today anything that helps lower stress is seen as a good thing.



Yep, totaly agree. However the poster is offering this as a "treatment" for PTSD. As Hypno says....stress is in the disorder............but you would never suggest JUST stress relieving techniques as a treatment for PTSD. Needs much more than that. Personally, I've seen the great results obtained by EMDR. No treatment works for 100% of people 100% of the time, but it seems dam good to me. Acupuncture which is designed to help drug and alcohol users fight addiction isn't really in the same league/type of disorder.


Perhaps it would be better if it was just called PTD?



i think the person offering it is offering it for the right reasons to HELP not as a cure as there is no cure just better management of the condition, so anyone who is willing to help ex servicemen and woman for free today are few and far between so i think it is a BIG thankyou from me to them



No cure? There are a few treatments which have proven to be successful in the treatment of PTSD. As Nursey says nothing will work 100% with 100% of people. EMDR, CBT, EFT (to name just 3) have all been a cure for some sufferers.


The offer may be altruistic, or on the other hand it could be an attempt to drum up trade. Seeing how I don't know them, & it is their first post on the forum; I wouldn't like to say. However, many people have posted links in their first post on this site for their own interest & never posted again; all claiming to be wanting "to help servicemen".



Exactly!!!!!  If it's not been tried and tested on PTSD....then I'd stay well clear! It's nice to offer help, but it needs to be the right help. PTSD is not something to plyaed around with.


@ Marclaycock......I'd have to disagree...there are lots and lots of people offering free help to forces personnel and also fundraising for charitites all over the country. Including many people on this site, giving to Combat Stress.  It is actually very difficult for the likes of myself, to offer help. As a Qualified Psychiatric Nurse............for me to help someone for free, outside of my actual employment, would actually put my registration at risk. I'd have to be self employed and charge in order to be covered and acceptable to the NMC. So...I donate to CS etc. etc.


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having just come out of combat stress audley court newport today anything that helps lower stress is seen as a good thing.



Yep, totaly agree. However the poster is offering this as a "treatment" for PTSD. As Hypno says....stress is in the disorder............but you would never suggest JUST stress relieving techniques as a treatment for PTSD. Needs much more than that. Personally, I've seen the great results obtained by EMDR. No treatment works for 100% of people 100% of the time, but it seems dam good to me. Acupuncture which is designed to help drug and alcohol users fight addiction isn't really in the same league/type of disorder.


Perhaps it would be better if it was just called PTD?



i think the person offering it is offering it for the right reasons to HELP not as a cure as there is no cure just better management of the condition, so anyone who is willing to help ex servicemen and woman for free today are few and far between so i think it is a BIG thankyou from me to them



No cure? There are a few treatments which have proven to be successful in the treatment of PTSD. As Nursey says nothing will work 100% with 100% of people. EMDR, CBT, EFT (to name just 3) have all been a cure for some sufferers.


The offer may be altruistic, or on the other hand it could be an attempt to drum up trade. Seeing how I don't know them, & it is their first post on the forum; I wouldn't like to say. However, many people have posted links in their first post on this site for their own interest & never posted again; all claiming to be wanting "to help servicemen".



Yes mate no cure only good mangement of the condition, i have had CBT AND EMDR However i have never heard of EFT what is it and is it tried and tested?

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HypnoStu says ...



marclaycock says ...



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marclaycock says ...



having just come out of combat stress audley court newport today anything that helps lower stress is seen as a good thing.



Yep, totaly agree. However the poster is offering this as a "treatment" for PTSD. As Hypno says....stress is in the disorder............but you would never suggest JUST stress relieving techniques as a treatment for PTSD. Needs much more than that. Personally, I've seen the great results obtained by EMDR. No treatment works for 100% of people 100% of the time, but it seems dam good to me. Acupuncture which is designed to help drug and alcohol users fight addiction isn't really in the same league/type of disorder.


Perhaps it would be better if it was just called PTD?



i think the person offering it is offering it for the right reasons to HELP not as a cure as there is no cure just better management of the condition, so anyone who is willing to help ex servicemen and woman for free today are few and far between so i think it is a BIG thankyou from me to them



No cure? There are a few treatments which have proven to be successful in the treatment of PTSD. As Nursey says nothing will work 100% with 100% of people. EMDR, CBT, EFT (to name just 3) have all been a cure for some sufferers.


The offer may be altruistic, or on the other hand it could be an attempt to drum up trade. Seeing how I don't know them, & it is their first post on the forum; I wouldn't like to say. However, many people have posted links in their first post on this site for their own interest & never posted again; all claiming to be wanting "to help servicemen".



Yes mate no cure only good mangement of the condition, i have had CBT AND EMDR However i have never heard of EFT what is it and is it tried and tested?



Sorry to hear you are one of the ones where it hasn't helped. I'm not a great fan of CBT for it anyway. EMDR helps many, sorry to hear you are not one of them.   EFT and similar techniques are also getting recognised and used more and more. Hope you find someting that works....never give up looking and trying! Some times it's about the right treatment at the right time.


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NurseGladys says ...



marclaycock says ...



having just come out of combat stress audley court newport today anything that helps lower stress is seen as a good thing.



Yep, totaly agree. However the poster is offering this as a "treatment" for PTSD. As Hypno says....stress is in the disorder............but you would never suggest JUST stress relieving techniques as a treatment for PTSD. Needs much more than that. Personally, I've seen the great results obtained by EMDR. No treatment works for 100% of people 100% of the time, but it seems dam good to me. Acupuncture which is designed to help drug and alcohol users fight addiction isn't really in the same league/type of disorder.


Perhaps it would be better if it was just called PTD?



i think the person offering it is offering it for the right reasons to HELP not as a cure as there is no cure just better management of the condition, so anyone who is willing to help ex servicemen and woman for free today are few and far between so i think it is a BIG thankyou from me to them



No cure? There are a few treatments which have proven to be successful in the treatment of PTSD. As Nursey says nothing will work 100% with 100% of people. EMDR, CBT, EFT (to name just 3) have all been a cure for some sufferers.


The offer may be altruistic, or on the other hand it could be an attempt to drum up trade. Seeing how I don't know them, & it is their first post on the forum; I wouldn't like to say. However, many people have posted links in their first post on this site for their own interest & never posted again; all claiming to be wanting "to help servicemen".



Yes mate no cure only good mangement of the condition, i have had CBT AND EMDR However i have never heard of EFT what is it and is it tried and tested?



Sorry to hear you are one of the ones where it hasn't helped. I'm not a great fan of CBT for it anyway. EMDR helps many, sorry to hear you are not one of them.   EFT and similar techniques are also getting recognised and used more and more. Hope you find someting that works....never give up looking and trying! Some times it's about the right treatment at the right time.



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