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The Forum Rules and other Warnings

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The History


Hmforces.co.uk was officially launched October 15th 2008, a new online space designed exclusively for serving the UK military community, to connect and develop their careers. Directors at Monster had come together with a plan to provide the UK with this social community; a place where military personnel and their families, could go for general advice about life in the military and advice on joining up, or giving military service personnel support in finding a job on leaving the services.

The Aims

It is the aim of the site to provide an up-to-date informative and innovative service available to all whom come here to use the services in a manner conducive to the good of all and hopefully along the way friends will be found, new contacts discovered, jobs found, and support given!


Do you need advice on landing a great civilian job once you leave the Forces? Curious if you’re claiming all the benefits you’re entitled to receive?


Or, just want to banter about which Service really works the hardest?


Check out our discussion forums, videos, benefits overview, plus much more, it’s clear – HMForces will be the place to be if you want to banter with the military community.


However, since the site will always be a work in progress and as it is entirely about and for members of the Armed Forces – your feedback is crucial. Please drop us a line if you have an idea for a new feature, want us to investigate something, or even if you’ve found a broken link.


The Rules of Conduct



  • Don't post any offensive images - nothing that wouldn't be shown on TV before the 9pm watershed.

  • No swearing - again, use the 9pm watershed guide, but as we are all adults humorous alternatives to specific swear words are welcome.

  • Be prepared for robust discussions/arguments but don't make personal comments and try not take things personally.

  • Don't post anything that you would not be prepared to say to the person's face or on national TV (yep, you guessed it - after the 9pm watershed).

  • Please bear in mind that some people will have extensive military experience and some may not have a clue about military life and take that into consideration before posting a negative reply.

  • If you find yourself in an argument with someone who refuses to back down, just walk away from your PC and do something more constructive. Some people always need to have the last word and this is obvious to other people reading the thread.

  • Be nice, be philosophical, be helpful, be funny, be sarcastic, be mischievous, be informative, be whatever, but don't set out to be nasty or negative.

  • As applicable to all posts and forums, retain the focus of the topic and try not to post replies that move a debate away from an issue.

  • In addition, the Moderators reserve the right to remove any posts and/or images that may be considered as offensive as this is of course, a public site.

  • Penultimately, please use the site with a degree of common sense and bear in mind considerations of OPSEC (Operational Security) when discussing soldiers whom may or may not be serving in the field, they themselves subject to the MoD (Ministry Of Defence) and issues of security. This applies to giving names and locations of serving personnel or discussing classified information.

  • And lastly – the main one - Enjoy it!


If there are further issues you are not certain about please see: Terms of Use and the: Privacy Policy


Mike_at_sb_laptop2_max50

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Thanks Russ - no swearing?  I guess we'll all get good at using the @#$!! characters

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Thank you CO for enforcing the professional rules of engagement and conduct - much obliged.


It takes three years to build a ship, three hundred to build a tradition.

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All well and good, Russ, but why no swearing? This website is called hmforces.co.uk and not monksandnuns.co.uk. I'm sure the folks on here are mature enough to keep it down to a moderate level, but it's part of life in general and particularly where the Armed Forces are concerned.


Or is that the puritan Septic influence on the website? I remember not so long ago on mil.com the filter was even blocking out parts of innocuous words, so that "scooter" became s***** and "prickly" became *****y. It was fückin' ridiculous!


MsG


Fünf Minuten vor der Zeit ist des Soldaten Pünktlicheit, der Sanitäter kommt zehn Minuten später.

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Bugsy, u wouldn't swear in front of an Officer would u? U'd end up in the cooler (sorry I love that Americanism) , sorry  in the nick so think of it as your C.O poppin up at any minute. I'm sure this site can be funny without expletives left, right and effin' centre. Watch Carry on Sergeant, funny as fcuk and not an expletive in site.


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Tommothefirst says ...



Bugsy, u wouldn't swear in front of an Officer would u?...........................................



Officers in this day and age would have no problem with swearing, just so long as Sir was added after the magic word.


In so far as swearing is concerned, it is cetainly common in the military, about the only place I knew of zero tolerance was in The Mess.



  

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Bugsy says ...



All well and good, Russ, but why no swearing? This website is called hmforces.co.uk and not monksandnuns.co.uk. I'm sure the folks on here are mature enough to keep it down to a moderate level, but it's part of life in general and particularly where the Armed Forces are concerned.


Or is that the puritan Septic influence on the website? I remember not so long ago on mil.com the filter was even blocking out parts of innocuous words, so that "scooter" became s***** and "prickly" became *****y. It was fückin' ridiculous!


MsG



Hi Bugsy,


They can't swear on monksandnuns.co.uk because they've taken a vow of silence that includes activities on the Internet. Their forums are really boring!


We've got no puritan Septic influence (that I'm aware of) but the site is funded/run by Monster and so it follows their site policies. It is a careers-based social networking site rather than a forum focused site like ARRSE.


The problem is that people have different definitions of a 'moderate level' and we want this to be open to everyone.


However, that doesn't mean you can't be inventive as this sort of thing can be much funnier than the standard expletive. Just don't make personal insults such as the one I removed the other day. I now this goes against military banter but the written word looks much more offensive than some quickfire verbal friendly insults. Does that make sense?


I REALLY don't want to have a swearing filter on the site.


Cheers


Russ

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Russ says ...



Bugsy says ...



All well and good, Russ, but why no swearing? This website is called hmforces.co.uk and not monksandnuns.co.uk. I'm sure the folks on here are mature enough to keep it down to a moderate level, but it's part of life in general and particularly where the Armed Forces are concerned.


Or is that the puritan Septic influence on the website? I remember not so long ago on mil.com the filter was even blocking out parts of innocuous words, so that "scooter" became s***** and "prickly" became *****y. It was fückin' ridiculous!


MsG



Hi Bugsy,


They can't swear on monksandnuns.co.uk because they've taken a vow of silence that includes activities on the Internet. Their forums are really boring!


We've got no puritan Septic influence (that I'm aware of) but the site is funded/run by Monster and so it follows their site policies. It is a careers-based social networking site rather than a forum focused site like ARRSE.


The problem is that people have different definitions of a 'moderate level' and we want this to be open to everyone.


However, that doesn't mean you can't be inventive as this sort of thing can be much funnier than the standard expletive. Just don't make personal insults such as the one I removed the other day. I now this goes against military banter but the written word looks much more offensive than some quickfire verbal friendly insults. Does that make sense?


I REALLY don't want to have a swearing filter on the site.


Cheers


Russ


Fair one, Russ, but it just doesn't wash. If you look at other sites, i.e Fivepak's (now sadly defunct) site, or milvets.org, on which normal squaddy terms are/were allowed, you get the feeling that some pseudo-Christian twät on this site (shades of mil.com?) has made a decision for everybody else to avoid terms that all and sundry are familiar with. Instead they're forced to employ laughable, ridiculous circuvumentions that mean exactly the same thing. So who are you fooling? I mean, c'mon, man, do yourself a favour and switch the fückin' thing off!


MsG



Fünf Minuten vor der Zeit ist des Soldaten Pünktlicheit, der Sanitäter kommt zehn Minuten später.

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I love the way that a discussion about RoE has turned into a contest to see who can get closest to swearing without actually swearing I bought a nice FCUKing shirt today.

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Start as you mean to go on. No you wouldn't swear in front of an officer at all, fair enough you might out in the field on operations as everyone does but you wouldn't if you were in a seminar or having a briefing with a Major etc. Since this is a public forum consider it like a seminar in which you air your thoughts. So what's the real point in dropping your load of f-bombs, and after all, use your brain and be a bit witty about it. Stop all this winging about religion.


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Hi Bugsy,


The swearing rules stay for the reasons mentioned in a previous post.


Just for your information our sites are run from Europe by a small team working within Monster. We also have a nursing site that has a very similar format.


Cheers


Russ

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Can we not swear on here then?

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Russ says ...



  •  Be nice, be philosophical, be helpful, be funny, be sarcastic, be mischievous, be informative, be whatever, but don't set out to be nasty or negative. 

     


I will love this site with the same passion as I afford fine wines, gold coins and women with the morals of a stoat, though as a newbie I will have to restrain myself not to *ucking swear all the time.

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ok then - fair enough. U live by the sword you die by the sword. What do you think of people who swear? Btw, that pro nurse website site is almost the same as this one and there's some rite nice folk on there.


The only preference I have is swatting Muslim extremists...

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It's not just about living by the sword and none of that septic rubbish, it's about saying stuff properly and not pissing about causing trouble - a lot of folk on other site just want to provoke dudes into oblivion so get amongst it and sort your crap out.


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Charles Windsor (and et al), you're a gentleman and future representative of this great country, bear in mind the Rules of Engagement. Certain words are funny and witty but as those rules stipulate, don't blatantly explete, maintain the topics and don't make anything too personal and certainly don't set out to insult people as you'll find your post deleted. Is that fair enough? Don't want to scare the children now do we.


If I had been censured every time I have run my ship, or fleets under my command,
into great danger, I should have long ago been out of the Service and never in the House of Peers.

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As a sensitive female I don't like excessive use of swearing and absolutely hate that awful word that begins with a 'c', but having served in the Navy swearing was all around, so I am used to it. 


I have actually just left a site where they initially banned all swearing, everyone kicked up a rumpus so they pulled the plug on the swear filter.  The only word they ask everyone not to use is..the 'C' word.  They have recognised that we are all adults, and if people don't like the swearing then they don't have to stay on the site...simple !  Mind you that site has a chat room, and it appears now that the vast majority do abide by the simple rule, also their forums are moderated and can be vetted!.....wish this site had a chat room :(


 

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Hi thanks for starting up this site and the forums,, hopefully it will grow from strength to strength,,,and unlike the official sites we can be looked upon and treated like Grown ups....


Thanks again.....


SilverBugle57


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no swearing??hmmm....im irish,casual swearing is the staple of any civilized convo :-)


(god i hope my mam aint readin this :-o) lol

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am in favour of the no swearing bit!, have sworn and cursed too much in my life,my kids sometimes look at this site with me , lets keep it till after the watershed for the more colourful expletives eh !   :)

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In complete agreement with you Barryboy,there's no need for any form of bad language.


This is a public site and open to all ages,and as ex service and serving personnel we should be able to set a good example to all the youngsters who see this site and maybe want to join up.


Give us a sense of humour,

Give us the grace to see a joke,

To get some humour out of life,

And pass it on to other folk.

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Compo says ...



In complete agreement with you Barryboy,there's no need for any form of bad language.


This is a public site and open to all ages,and as ex service and serving personnel we should be able to set a good example to all the youngsters who see this site and maybe want to join up.



 


Have to agree100% with you Compo too many people come here see whats here & take off again, it's a shame isn't it that some people spoil it for everyone else who really enjoy the site especially the comaradeship of fellow service people/vets


"Too often we underestimate the power of a touch, a smile, a kind word, a listening ear, an honest compliment, or the smallest act of caring, all of which have the potential to turn a life around."

Leo Buscaglia

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I can never get my head around those who swear in front of women I loath it big time and if I hear it in front of my wife god I loose it big time, I could swear like a blue parrot but there is a place and a time


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Oh dear, me, it's a good job none of you knew my father, your delicate little ears would have curled up with his language, BUT we always got a slap if we used the same words??????????????????? I've heard them all plus a few, never use them though. I don't do much myself. the exception is the thieves  and traitors running the country.

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I can see there are quite a few muppetheads on this site....If they want to use bad language then its only right and proper that it should be done in a private format.It would be most impolite to swear in any of the topics for sensible reasons,youngsters,offending ladies like myself.If i have to voice my opinion against another person on here male or female i will be doing it via PM's so dont annoy or insult me  or i will  lash out very nastily.


Any offensive behaviour is a no no,i agree with the rules entirely.


The Bitch


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 Eh, I'm sorry, whilst I do agree there's no need for bad language to be used.... I have to say ..this is a "Forces" site and as such some "banter" is bound to be expected. I'd think if you are going to be easily offended...then it would hardly be the first choice of a site to join. The fun and forces banter is one of the reasons I joined.  BUT, when it's directed at an individual, in public......then there's no need for that and it should be removed or apologised for. And if someone is being personally abusive to another member on the site, then advise Stewart or Ed


However, if anyone doesn't like what they see........... the choice is there not to log in in the first place surely? I tend to have the same opinion about people who complain about tv programmes etc...... there's a free choice to switch off or change channels if you don't like what you see?

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Eh, I'm sorry, whilst I do agree there's no need for bad language to be used.... I have to say ..this is a "Forces" site and as such some "banter" is bound to be expected. I'd think if you are going to be easily offended...then it would hardly be the first choice of a site to join. The fun and forces banter is one of the reasons I joined.  BUT, when it's directed at an individual, in public......then there's no need for that and it should be removed or apologised for. And if someone is being personally abusive to another member on the site, then advise Stewart or Ed

 


However, if anyone doesn't like what they see........... the choice is there not to log in in the first place surely? I tend to have the same opinion about people who complain about tv programmes etc...... there's a free choice to switch off or change channels if you don't like what you see?


 


Well said! rmn58!


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First letters with asterisks is all that is needed or some other form of mixed signs .     REMEMBER THERE ARE CHILDREN WHO LOOK INTO THIS SITE WITH MUM AND DAD.

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joyceecee123 says ...



First letters with asterisks is all that is needed or some other form of mixed signs .     REMEMBER THERE ARE CHILDREN WHO LOOK INTO THIS SITE WITH MUM AND DAD.


Hear hear!! It should however be noted that if the person/persons accused of something are innocent then an apology should follow forthwith and in the same manner as the accusation. ie. public apology if the accusation was public! This would lead to less distress to all individuals involved!



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We haven't long joined the site and are only just about finding our feet and catching up with some of the past chatter. 


We banter about on quite a few different forums and social networking sites and have found that the 'bad language' rules and 'bad taste' rules are a norm throughout - they are not unique to HMForces.  Bad language, personal insults / digs is in my honest opinion un-necessary and unwarranted.  In real life is happens, and in some circles is accepted. Lord knows, we can all swear like troopers if we've a mind to and the circumstances are right for it - but in an open forum, that possibly can be picked up on a google search - anything that is of an unpleasant nature can be detrimental to the site overall - and IMHO cause more damage to the site than good. 


From experience we have found that some people can and are arguementative and will inist on having the last word - they will argue til they are blue in the face that the sky is green with pink spots if they've a mind to - the easiest thing to do with members of that mind is to put them on a mental ignore list and not be drawn into their arguement. In the end, they either give up posting and walk away, or they change their approach to the site and will join in as they should have been doing in the first place.


Just my thoughts and my tuppence worth so to speak .


Babs


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