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So i have been wondering,why we do not have an women subs,since women are not allowed on male subs. Whats the answer to this question... I don want the nuclear reactor mallarchy rubbish. If  i was given the chance i would love to be a female sub lol

they actually have subs over in Faslane that were adapted for women to serve in.  they trialled it in the 60s i think it was and for whatever reason they decided that it was a bad idea for women to servie in submarines.

They also did a poll of women in the RN just over 18 months ago with their views on serving in submarines (I had a survey to fill out, thats why i know that!) but i dont know what the outcome was.

honestly wat do men have that women have not seen before, and what do women have that men have not seen before. Because the major highlight of this is quarters. Nothing wrong with seeing a bit of flesh is there.  ha ha

Fisetyamber, I have had the "we have all seen each others bits" arguement when I was on leadership course at HMS Excellent.  We had to share a lot of the ablutions with the girls on course and more than a few of them saw mine and I saw a few of theirs as well.  The problem with submarines is not that we will be flashing each other at every occassion, it is the very nature of the facilities.  The JRs on a fleet,  or attack, Submarine get the following:

3 in niumber traps (toilets)  2 for poo, 1 for wee (seat removed)

4 in number sinks.

2 in number shower cubicles. 1 is for showering in the other (depending on the boat) is used as a canteen store/cleaning store or to store the Chief stokers firefighting maintenance equipment.

The SRs get both showers to use but only 2 traps and the wardroom get 2 traps, 1 sink and 1 shower.  They do get sinks in their cabins though.

Also in the JRs head you cannot walk directly from the door to the trap even if there isn't someone in the way as the gap between the shower and sinks is to narrow.  It gets very friendly if you need the toilet at watch handover.

That is if you don't have water restrictions.  Then you tend to walk in and find someone stood stark naked trying to have a bath in a sink.

This is before we go on about hotbunking.  This is the way we get around the lack of beds by the guy that is coming off watch gets into the bed that his relief has just got out of.

Fiesty, till you have served on a boat, let alone seen the inside of one, trust me, it's no place for a lass. The blokes just about get on with it. Add a few lasses to the mix ?!?!?!?!?! That's one boat I'd shy away from !

fisetyamber says ...

Correction, i can put up with all that. And why be stereo like dat i have been on vigilant, and that one that had the accident other month ha. So trust me i have been on spent a few as well. And now vig is in refurbishment i am bored stiff . I know abt all the rubbish you are on abt why do you think iam so passionate abt this issue....,... I havent said a lot ,but i gather yu are the boys in the blue bll bottoms ha . Never mind you are male , so i can forgive your ego running away with you . End off.... And i see you are afraid of a challenge hey .. my balls are bigger or rather should i say my l is !!!!!

May i suggest that you read this thread from the starting point, Listen to the Submariners and Wrens who are actually Serving on Submarines and Ships.NOW.

Never Listen to the Sun or the News of the Screws OK  end off you will not get a Scoop here

Griff says ...

Its such as shame this will really wlll be a great Site, but my feeling at the Moment is one of Alarm at the moment,We run silent and run deep on Submarines.Discuss it all you want but when too many questions are asked.I will always back off.

Throwing it back at you what Submarines have you Served on?

You're right Griff - there's only so much you can discuss about this subject and then you end up having to be discreet and get accused of refusing to cooperate. Civilians do not understand the implications of Per - and Op - Sec while there are things you would never openly discuss on a forum simply because it is uncomfortable for you to do so.

Fiestyamber will have to take it all on face value until she's actually serving and then will understand how things operate. In addition, ask former Female members of the RN if you don't agree with what males claim about Submariners.

Tommo i was asking Submariners on the Sub i am serving on if they had ever seen the results of the Survey.Not one of them had heard of such a Survey.

Stewart you are absolutely right i can only discuss certain things due to Ops constraints and thank you for pointing that out.

Taking this a step further and maybe stop some of the rumours about the new Astute class submarines in build,i phoned a mate of mine who is undergoing training on the Astute,to the best of his knowledge there are no plans to accomodate Females onboard that class of Submarine at this moment in time.

This subject if you google it is widely debated on the internet,one thing that sticks out as far as i can see and maybe someone would comment on this.A lot of Submariners wives/girlfriends are quite rightly in my opinion worried that in cramped conditions and for long periods submerged their husbands might be tempted.

That may seem strange but i do remember when Females were first allowed to serve on ships i was sceptical too that seems to have worked ok, However human nature being what it is there have been a few Marital casualties.

Griff says ...

 

This subject if you google it is widely debated on the internet,one thing that sticks out as far as i can see and maybe someone would comment on this.A lot of Submariners wives/girlfriends are quite rightly in my opinion worried that in cramped conditions and for long periods submerged their husbands might be tempted.

That may seem strange but i do remember when Females were first allowed to serve on ships i was sceptical too that seems to have worked ok, However human nature being what it is there have been a few Marital casualties.

Marital casualties happen in any walk of life and if a sub is so cramped then surely there wouldnt be anywhere to get cosy with a member of the opposite sex! I am neither for or against women on subs but I bow to you Navy types knowledge on this one. The results of the latest survey will no doubt be very interesting, and not to everyones liking!

Hey Amber,

Great to see you back! Hows things?